DNS Dummy needs advice

[smwunixshellforum]

To be upfront and open..... i am less than a yr old on linux and most of that experience has always just been on the desktop app side of things setting up software apps and games so my 7 yr old son cant mess up the computer os anymore (he always managed to cause major errors on a gates box) .......i have not needed to post on the forums before since most things have been handled just by reading other peoples questions but i can not seem to find a solution to my lack of knowledge and this time google searches just make me even more confused.... so i thought maybe i will get lucky and someone smarter than i am will be able to explain in terms that my "new to server configuring brain" can comprehend.... i will explain what i am trying to do and what i keep running into as the result

what i am trying to do is:

i have many domain names and i generally buy 100 +/- more each month.... i am just trying to park them at my own equipment so that i can have total control of what people see when connecting to any of them...... i am trying to setup my domain name servers..... the odd part is right now the way it is everything works just fine it just does not work how i wish it to work ....i am using deb 3.1 and have directadmin installed.... the name servers seem to work fine when i add new domains etc. through the control panel...as far as i can tell i have all my info in them setup correct for it to function ( i think at least since it all works including email etc.) as far as the records go the reverse lookup is setup for the 2 ip addresses im using through the VM tek control panel section ....where i am stuck is having to use everydns.net to be able to get any domains to point to my box ..... when i try to add NS1 or NS2.mynameserver.net on the manageopensrs.net site........ i get the error
"Unable to update nameservers: Nameserver [ns1.mynameserver.net] doesn't exist at the registry " same error for NS2...... i have replaced the nameserver name i am using with this example name for this post

and thats as far as i get .....i end up just logging in to everydns.net and adding them to the list that points to my ip address i use to store www pages on. resulting in of course near instant use....i thought the directadmin would be able to take the place of the everydns.net step so that when i create the username for the new domain it would add it to the nameserver list for the shared ip address of my server i have tried to understand the DNS system and i think i have a good grasp of what i need to do but cant find any way to do it.....i bought the domain name that i am trying to use as my 2 name servers from godaddy and i keep finding reference in google searchs saying i need to have this name listed as a name server through the registar which im "assuming" refers to godaddy this is my first solo attempt at nameservers the last time i had my own name servers i just had a managed dedicated server from rackshack (now ev1servers.net which i found the service went down hill and canceled my servers with them as a result) and they handled everything for me.....when they issued them to me they just worked and i was able to use them with every new domain name bought.... i know there is a step i am missing and i think this is the step (having my domain listed as a nameserver) but godaddy does not offer any infomation at all about how to make your domain names listed as nameservers nor does any google search give any steps on how to do this they all refrence to the subject just says "have your domain name listed with ns1 and ns2.yourdomainname.net with your registar" and no explanation on how to do this.

so my question is (please be easy on the "your stupid" flames like i have seen on some other posts) i have managed to do most tasks needed thus far on any linux problems i have had by myself (which for me was half the fun and challange of learning linux) with the help of searching the web communities and google of course.... in fact this is the first time i have ever had to post on any forum with a un-solvable problem... i know its likely just a stupid thing that i need to do and likely something thats out of my relm of control... i am thinking its something godaddy needs to do but i dont know what i need to ask them to do or how to ask them to do it.... since there is nothing on their website listing a action plan in order to get it done........so after that novel read i wrote if your still here my question is how do i get my ns1/ns2.mydomainname.net listed as name servers so that when i buy new names i can just put ns1.mynameserver.net and ns2.mynameserver.net and have it work so that the root domain servers from like ICANN,etc. know what my ip addresseses are that i am using and have setup as nameservers in directadmin? i am almost positive everything else is setup to handle this duty correctly if i could only manage to get my nameservers listed as the ns1 and ns2 in charge of any new domain name i buy..... i feel it will automatically work as intended

Thank you in advance
Scott

[brianmurphy]

Hi Scott. I admire your research prior to asking your question.

I ran a google for "godaddy register nameservers" (without the quotes) and the first link pointed to http://forum.weborum.com/index.php?showtopic=2697 . It looks like what you are after (I don't use godaddy). Don't worry about point #14 if your IPs aren't contiguous. It doesn't matter.

The broader purpose of this excersize is so that the top level nameservers can resolve your nameserver IP without actually walking down the DNS tree!

Hope this helps.

Brian

[jcinacio]

Basicly you need to "register" your name servers in the same place you got your domain name(s) from.

For example, i use everydns.net to manage my domains/DNS's but i still have to specify (in the place i got my domain from) that the name servers for my domain are something like ns1.everydns.com...

if i want to host my own name server, then i need to specify my hosts at every registered domain's account.

i hope thats it but to be honest your post was a bit long and messy...

[demonlag]

Your registrar should have an option to register new name servers.

For example, if I register a domain and say my name servers are ns1.msft.net and ns2.msft.net, and the registrar sees those are already known to the world, boom, it just works.

If, however, I say my name servers are ns1.mycompany.com and ns2.mycompany.com, and those servers are not registered in DNS anywhere, you need to tell the registrar that:
ns1.mycompany.com = 1.2.3.4
ns2.mycompany.com = 1.2.3.5

Godaddy (who I register my domains with) calls this a "Domain Host". Once you've given your registrar this information, they start telling the world what your nameservers are, and you can now actually use them for DNS.

I may be unclear on this, if so, please post back with questions and I'll do my best to explain.

[smwunixshellforum]

Thanks for all the help with the godaddy info it worked great it was under the "domain Hosts" section somehow i didnt have that section when i first setup the name you have to log out and log back in to your account before it shows that section (wierd but after logging back in poof that section showed up)

for that other person .....It was the process of how to do it at godaddy i needed to know as far as the long and disorganized comment....um yeah i made it long and disorgannized to not get responces from people who would not understand the process of what i was trying to do to begin with, instead i decided to make it look like a messy raw text config file from a shell (which has been where i have been spending my time lately learning the real linux without having to have need of control panels to fix my errors and only use them to speed additions to several files at the same time) i did this to weed out responces from point and click control panel users that would list info i already knew, and even included as an example in the fore mentioned disorganized post everydns.net is a great service, i am glad they are out there its perfect for people that have a few domains or up to 20 that they want more control over for FREE.....its a little different type of recomended need and NOT free unless you have your own when you have 2981 domains your trying to point....and your setup with the same type of software to act as your own nameserver (in case you read this and not understand.... its what everydns.net uses to be able to provide you with your free nameservice that they linked with a set of scripts to display the contained raw info)....i posted here that way i could make sure i would get accurate info from a true linux GURU and not from someone likely at a lower level than my current understandings and skillset.


um yeah in all my googling...do you think i was smart enough to just type what you did in the google field man i feel dumb instead i got to learn about everything having to do with the DNS system (even the root level) but had i just typed in search the godaddy thing maybe it would have been easier....hummmm....leason learned

[jcinacio]

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for that other person .....It was the process of how to do it at godaddy i needed to know as far as the long and disorganized comment...[/QUOTE]

err... sorry about that, it's just that its very easy for someone (well, at least for me) to get lost after too many sentences in the same paragraph.

IMHO, if i were to post something along these lines, i would try to make it as clear as possible for anyone willing to help, and remember english might not be everyone's native language. i think people should be able to read everything straight without getting lost somewhere...

again, sry if i wasn't much help :(